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America Needs Republicans
I am a new voter having turned 18 this year. I choose to be a Republican because America needs Republicans. Without Republicans, America would be a one party government which is a mere hop skip and jump from being an authoritarian government authored by Democrats. What does a new Republican voter in this year make of this election? It's a real eye opener for me.
McCain would not have been my first choice. Mitt Romney would have been. But, that's life. I am used to not getting what I want all the time. Invading Iraq was not the the right choice according to polls. But, we are there. And we must find a way to insure that Iraq is an ally when we leave, and not a hostile nation which we may have to invade yet again sometime in the future. The polls indicate most Americans believe John McCain is the best person for president to accomplish that task. Good enough for me.
Terrorist organizations have grown in number and followers since 9/11. Folks can fix the blame for that on President Bush if they wish, there are good arguments on both sides of that issue. But, the question for me as a voter, is which candidate for president is most capable of reducing the number of terrorists in the world going forward. Again, the polls show most Americans believe that is John McCain. Good enough for me.
I wasn't old enough to understand why Democrats were thrown out of the majority in Congress back in 1994. I hear from what I have read, it was due to morality and ethics issues, and taxes being too high. But they were thrown out. In a democracy, one must stand by the will of the majority of voters. That is at the heart of democracy. I trust the people to make those decisions about leaders in government. Why would an American who believes in democracy, not?
In 2006, Republicans were thrown out of the majority in Congress. I must accept the wisdom of the people on that decision too. In high school economics I learned that our national debt had risen over 50% in just 6 years under the one party Republican rule. That is not what Republican philosophy of good fiscal management and paying our debts called for. The public was right to reject those particular Republicans in Congress who violated the Republican philosophy.
But, now we have Democrats back in control of Congress, again. And on November 4, the American people will have to decide if they want a one party government of Democrats in control of everything. We learned in school that a divided government and checks and balances were built into the design of our government to help prevent the one idea or one person from dictating their preferences to all others in the nation. Seems to me, electing a Democratic president and keeping a Democrat controlled Congress would not meet the prescription called for in our Constitution.
America needs Republicans in government to check and balance the Democrats. And vice versa. Because of this, it is not that important to me that John McCain was not my first choice for Republican president. It is important to me, that our government keep the checks and balances and divided branches as a protection from the excesses of one Party's views and policy preferences. That is why I think John McCain should be our next president, and why I will vote for him.
I hope enough of my fellow Americans will do the same. I believe in democracy. And I won't commit suicide if Obama is elected. If the Democrats have all the power in our government, I have no doubt that they will commit the same mistake the Republicans did when they thought they had all the power. And that will make Democrats one party rule short lived.
Trusting democracy and its ability to cancel out excesses that harm the American people, is for me, what being an American, as opposed to a Russian or Chinese citizen, is really about.
Terrorist organizations have grown in number and followers since 9/11. Folks can fix the blame for that on President Bush if they wish, there are good arguments on both sides of that issue. But, the question for me as a voter, is which candidate for president is most capable of reducing the number of terrorists in the world going forward. Again, the polls show most Americans believe that is John McCain. Good enough for me.
I wasn't old enough to understand why Democrats were thrown out of the majority in Congress back in 1994. I hear from what I have read, it was due to morality and ethics issues, and taxes being too high. But they were thrown out. In a democracy, one must stand by the will of the majority of voters. That is at the heart of democracy. I trust the people to make those decisions about leaders in government. Why would an American who believes in democracy, not?
In 2006, Republicans were thrown out of the majority in Congress. I must accept the wisdom of the people on that decision too. In high school economics I learned that our national debt had risen over 50% in just 6 years under the one party Republican rule. That is not what Republican philosophy of good fiscal management and paying our debts called for. The public was right to reject those particular Republicans in Congress who violated the Republican philosophy.
But, now we have Democrats back in control of Congress, again. And on November 4, the American people will have to decide if they want a one party government of Democrats in control of everything. We learned in school that a divided government and checks and balances were built into the design of our government to help prevent the one idea or one person from dictating their preferences to all others in the nation. Seems to me, electing a Democratic president and keeping a Democrat controlled Congress would not meet the prescription called for in our Constitution.
America needs Republicans in government to check and balance the Democrats. And vice versa. Because of this, it is not that important to me that John McCain was not my first choice for Republican president. It is important to me, that our government keep the checks and balances and divided branches as a protection from the excesses of one Party's views and policy preferences. That is why I think John McCain should be our next president, and why I will vote for him.
I hope enough of my fellow Americans will do the same. I believe in democracy. And I won't commit suicide if Obama is elected. If the Democrats have all the power in our government, I have no doubt that they will commit the same mistake the Republicans did when they thought they had all the power. And that will make Democrats one party rule short lived.
Trusting democracy and its ability to cancel out excesses that harm the American people, is for me, what being an American, as opposed to a Russian or Chinese citizen, is really about.
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4:19 PM, 08 31 2008 | Permalink
LA Hanna,
You make the best argument I have ever seen on any blog for choosing to vote for John McCain. I am backing Obama, but, you make an excellent argument for defending your choice.
On Nov. 4, however, most Americans will not be using your excellent logic to decide their vote. They will be using the one criteria voters have used from the very beginning, which candidate is going to improve my existence in this country and my children's, the most?
This year, that will translate into whether the economy or fears of foreign based conflicts, pose the greater threat to voter's quality of life in America. Right now, the polls indicate this election will be about the economy, and that issue favors Obama, as the majority polled say Obama will do more to improve the economy and their economic lives than McCain.
A lot can happen between now and November, however. But, it would be wrong to wish for another terrorist attack or something horrific to occur in order to insure McCain's election on foreign policy. (McCain is favored on foreign policy issues.)
We will see. Welcome to PoliWatch as a new writer, and thank you for a perspective I haven't read by a Republican before.
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Marcie G. said at :
6:15 PM, 08 31 2008 | Permalink
LA Hanna,
You may live in LA, I am in the midwest. You may be a Republican, I lean Democrat. You may be a bright and energetic 18 year old, I am a few years older in my last year of college.
But, I couldn't help be energized by your remarks about our generation having to pay for the future in your essay in the forum. You are so right, no pun intended.
I have to say though in response to your view that a one party government is a bad thing, that our divided party government this last year and a half has produced no solutions to the major problems facing our nation.
Gridlock and deadlock in Congress and between Congress and the WhiteHouse is proving to be every bit as damaging to our future as a one party government might be, if not more so. I would prefer to have some marginally effective solutions to debt, deficits, ending the Iraq war, improving education, creating green collar jobs, and actually reducing our contributions to global climate change, than to have no solutions at all be enacted, which is what we are witnessing.
At this juncture in time, I believe a one party government under Democrats will give our future some action and solutions to some of our problems that a divided and gridlocked government can't and won't. We don't live in a perfect world, and imperfect human beings don't act responsibly all the time. But, if given a chance, most people will act in their own best interests.
I think most of us would agree that delaying action to reduce deficit spending, increase taxes to pay for what we are spending, raising educational quality, and creating green collar jobs will be extremely damaging to our future. We have to act.
And the only way our government is going to be able to act, is if one side or the other has the votes to act. The Congress is not going back to Republicans in November. And a Republican president like McCain who will veto Democrat attempts to solve problems, denying them credit for solving them, is not going insure a better futre for our generation. Wouldn't you agree?
I have to vote for Obama because an Obama presidency and a Democratic Congress will solve some of our problems that are getting more costly for our generation with each passing month.
Your arguments have merit, but, not for this particular point in time, as they would promote non-action in dealing with our nation's problems, the way I see it.
I look forward to more of your perspectives. It is not so easy to find rational female bloggers like you these days. I respect your view, even if I can't go along with it for this election.
Marcie G. | August 31, 2008 6:15 PM
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LA Hanna replied to Marcie G. at: :
2:37 PM, 09 03 2008 | Permalink
Marcie, sorry, I missed your reply until now. I only have about 5 minutes, but, I will return this evening.
You make some very good points about gridlock preventing our government from solving pressing problems. My understanding of how government is supposed to work is that gridlock was supposed to be met with compromise. Perhaps the problem in Congress is that the Democrats with a very slight majority will not compromise with Republicans, and that results in gridlock.
Same with Bush's attempts to address the social security issue. Congress would not compromise, and so nothing was done. I continue to read from others that replacing many of the older politicians in the Congress with new ones might be an answer to the gridlock. I don't see any evidence that this would work, but, it is possible that new politicians will work harder at solving problems in order to earn their first reelection. I don't know.
I know I won't be voting for my representative (a Republican) running again. But, I will be voting for his Republican challenger, though the polls show he doesn't have much of a chance of winning. But, someone at some point has to vote against a politician before they are eventually unseated. Gotta go. I will try to get back to this later tonight.
Thank you for your reply.
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9:27 PM, 08 31 2008 | Permalink
Why? You've already used four examples of the polls and the "will of the people." If it's the will of the people to have Democrats control Congress and the White House, then you should be OK with it, right?
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Jerry Bean said at :
10:21 PM, 08 31 2008 | Permalink
Great writing job, LA. You are absolutely right. America does need Republicans who demand true conservative values from their politicians and our government. Go girl!
I love your concept that a one party government is not far from a dictator nation. When only 1 party is in control of government, the voices of all other parties are silenced in terms of policy.
No one was more disappointed by the Republicans through 2006 than me. I felt betrayed and deceived by those calling themselves Republican. We need a whole new batch of Republicans to run for office who have not been corrupted by tenure working along side ancient Democrats like Kennedy and Byrd.
Maybe you will consider running one day.
Jerry Bean | August 31, 2008 10:21 PM
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LA Hanna replied to Jerry Bean at: :
3:51 PM, 09 01 2008 | Permalink
Thank you Jerry for your encouraging comments.
I don't know how the Republicans select their candidates for office. I don't know the history of every Republican in the Senate and House during those years of mismanagement of our federal spending and taxes from 2001 to 2007. It seems obvious however, that some other selection standard is needed if the Republican Party is to recapture its reputation for being fiscally sound and responsible.
I have to think however, that the Democrat's and Pres. Bush's failures to check and balance the excesses of all that spending are both responsible. I read somewhere else, that Pres. Bush did not veto one spending bill during his first term in office. That is why I think the failure was in our checks and balances between the White House and Congress, which were designed, each with their obligation to public opinion, to prevent the other from the being reckless with my spending and taxes which will continue to hurt my generation in the amount of taxes we have to pay. And the taxes we will have to pay for their excesses means we won't have as much money out of our paychecks to spend to solve the problems our generation will face.
What this tells me is that I have an obligation to vote for Republicans who, like me, will face and address the consequences of the excesses of the past. Young Republicans who will honor our debts, but, also work very hard and intelligently to prevent costly mistakes in judgment and policy which can free up some of our paychecks in the future.
Growing our economy and exports will create jobs and tax revenues to pay some of our debts. Sen. McCain's and Sen. Obama's commitment to alternative energy developments which we can export will help. But, Sen. McCain's commitment to veto spending bills which are full of poor judgment and wasteful spending which undermines my generation's future instead of shoring it up, makes my decision to vote for him very easy.
I think if Obama is elected, he will not be so willing to veto spending bills pushed through by his own Party's majority in Congress. When I look at my Congressman's voting record and horrible waste of taxpayer dollars on bills which do nothing for salvaging my generation's debt obligations and economic growth, I get riled up. His record reads just like Democrats, voting with his Party right down the line with very rare exception.
I will be voting for candidates who will lead this country, not follow their party herd. I can be a follower. My representatives need to be leaders, not followers, if they want my vote. This is one of the reasons I will be voting for John McCain. He has not been a consistent follower of the Party that acted like Democrats with wasteful spending and growing debts for my generation to carry.
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Jerry Bean said at :
10:33 PM, 08 31 2008 | Permalink
American Pundit, democracy without a constitution is like a fish without water. Lots flailing about without guidance or direction.
The Constitution calls for divided government and checks and balances. There is no better check on Democratic Party excesses and social decay ideas than Republican voices in government.
If, huge if, Obama stays true to his word on bringing republican and independent voices into his administration, he just might have a real chance at reelection. If, another big one, he ever gets a first 4 years. Polls show his numbers have been moving in the wrong direction for that to happen.
Republican or not, folks should respect Obama's call for bipartisan government where all the people's voices can be heard and represented. LA Hanna has this one pegged solid. But his record indicates he will side with liberals 97% of the time which no doubt is influencing his dropping poll numbers over the last several months.
Jerry Bean | August 31, 2008 10:33 PM
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10:15 AM, 09 01 2008 | Permalink
Unfortunately, too many voters merely let the two-party duopoly take turns being corrupt, irresponsible, and unaccountable; rather than ousting all irresponsible and unaccountable incumbent politicians.
A paradox exists.
The two parties simply take turns. The IN-PARTY abuses power more than the OUT-PARTY, and voters decide its time to let the OTHER party to take over for a while. Unfortunately, voters fail to understand that merely letting the two-party duopoly take turns being irresponsible and corrupt isn't solving the nation's pressing problems growing dangerously in number and severity. The voters were right to oust a bunch of Republicans.Today, voters give Congress a dismal 9% approval rating, but reward Congress with 85%-to-90% re-election rates.
However, the voters failed to send a loud-and-clear message to the OTHER party, and what have the Democrats accomplished since 7-NOV-2006 ?
Yes, they fooled a lot of people.Congress is dysfunctional because the voters are dysfunctional.
Now we can see that BOTH are fiscally and morally bankrupt, and most Americans will suffer the consequences for their own poor voting habits.
After all, what sense does it make to give Congress low approval ratings, but then reward it with 85%-to-90% re-election rates?
Rearding the $9.6 Trillion National Debt and nation-wide debt, where will the money come from to merely pay the INTERST on $53 Trillion of nation-wide debt , much less the money to reduce the current PRINCIPAL debt of $53 Trillion, when that money does not already exist? Especially when now, 80% of the U.S. population owns only 17% (or less) of all wealth, and 1% owns 40% of all wealth (up by 20% from 20% in year 1976); a wealth disparity gap that has never been worse since the Great Depression.
You know something is terribly wrong when no one can answer that question.
Respectfully, America does not need Republicans or Democrats.
America needs are more responsible voters, who reject the circular, distracting partisan-warfare fueled by clever politicians who put party above country, who reject blind partisan loyalties, and reject the many other controlling mechanisms used by many politicians to capitalize on voters' human weaknesses.
That is the paradox.
Voters ironically give Congress record low ratings, but then reward Congress with high re-election rates of 85%-to-90%.
Government will not become more responsible and accountable until the voters do too.
PROBLEM: Government is too corrupt, and too many voters allow it (even empower it due to short-sighted interests without the long-term vision to see how it will bring long-term pain and misery).
SOLUTION: Education (which we will get one way or another), and stop rewarding bad politicians with perpetual re-election. Vote smarter, or suffer the painful consequences resulting from the continuation of these abuses, perpetuated by BOTH main parties of the two-party duopoly.
Regardless of who the next president is, the voters shouldn't forget about Congress.
Especially since no one can name 50, 100, 200, or even 268 (half of 535) in Congress that are responsible and accountable?
Unless someone can name at least 268 (half of 535) in COngress that are responsible and accountable, what does it mean about Congress as a whole, and the voters that repeatedly reward those same incumbent politicians with perpetual re-election?
Otherwise, voters are probably sabotaging their choice for president, by saddling the next president with the same corrupt, irresponsible, incompetent Congress.
At any rate, the voters have the government that the voters elect (and re-elect, and re-elect, and re-elect , . . . , at least until that finally becomes too painful).
When all else fails, pain and misery can be a wonderful teacher and motivator.
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LA Hanna replied to d.a.n at: :
4:10 PM, 09 01 2008 | Permalink
Dan, thank you for your reply.
You appear to be older with a lot more knowledge about the history of politics than I. I have not learned enough to be able to agree or disagree with you on whether the reelection rate is the fault of the voters or the system or the particular politicians in office.
It does ring true for me what you say about education. Voters, especially voters my age who I know as friends and family are not doing the kind of homework and research they need to. They aren't from I can see, receiving the education they need in high school, to make responsible decisions on election day as to which candidates will best serve their current and future circumstances. Apparently 18 year olds were given the vote because they were eligible for the draft in military service.
But, where is the education in high school on the history of war in America? And except for the elective course in economics, high school students don't get taught about the trillions of dollars that government raises and spends every decade. Seems to me, if 18 year olds are to vote, they absolutely must have access to that kind of education if they are to cast even a remotely smart vote in their own favor. I support 18 year olds voting. I don't support America's current education system that fails to educate them to make the most important decision they will have the opportunity to make on election day. Everything else in their young lives, their jobs, their college costs, borrowing and credit, and where they will live will be affected by how they vote.
The party's are how very large numbers of citizens unite with a common purpose and agenda to design America's future. That is why I have to support the Republican Party. Some of values and hopes for my future are given voice and strength in numbers by joining a political party, like reducing spending and taxes, more educational opportunities and avenues, and support for American business which will offer me a job one day after college.
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9:38 PM, 09 01 2008 | Permalink
I'm a lot older than 18.
It took me a long time (decades) to finally realize that my partisan loyalty was not only misplaced, but abused.
The real problem is NOT only politicians.
The real problem is NOT only the voters.
The real problem is BOTH.
Our government and too many (if not all) of our incumbent politicians are corrupt, irresponsible, and incompetent.
It is BOTH. Think about it. There are many Republicans that want you to believe it is all the Democrats fault. There are many Democrats that want you to believe it is all the Republicans fault. That's been going on for a long time, and many politicians love to fuel it, but regardless of which is the current IN-PARTY, or OUT-PARTY, our pressing problems continue to grow dangerously in number and severity, while Congress gives itself another raise (9 times between 1997 and 2007), more cu$hy perks and benefits, and rigs the system to make their cu$hy incumbencies more secure. Why?But too many voters repeatedly reward most of those incumbent politicians with 85%-to-90% re-election rates.
And the incumbents, over time, have naturally stacked the deck to their advantage, to increase their opportunities for self-gain and to make their cu$hy incumbencies more secure.
As long as the U.S. is a voting nation, the voters have the government that they elect.
However, most voters don't pay close enough attention to realize they are simply letting (even empowering) the two main parties to simply take turns getting theirs, use, abuse, and exploit most Americans, as evidenced by these 10 major abuses and the resulting deterioration of these 17 economic conditions which are now worse than ever and/or since the Great Depression.
In a voting nation, it can not be solely only one or the other.
It can not be solely the incumbent politicians' fault, since voters repeatedly reward incumbent politicians with 85%-to-90% re-election rates.
Thus, the voters are culpable too.
However, whenever government has grown too corrupt, only the voters can change it.
Regarding systems, too many voters try to blame it on the system (or systems); or some part of the constitution that is being violated; or the wealthy; or the usurious, inflationary monetary system; or the two-party-duopoly; or the Democrats; or the Republicans; etc., etc., etc.
No doubt about it. Not just the basics of Reading, Writing, and Arithmetic. But other things too (e.g. human nature, economics, monetary systems, and the importance of Education itself, Transparency, and Accountability).But these are all human-designed systems.
Most system problems are usually a result of those systems being perverted and over-complicated so that they will ripe for abuse (i.e. for self-gain, for legal plunder).
You know the saying: "You must learn the rules so you can know how to break the rules" ?
Well, given time, without sufficient Transparency and Accountability within our systems, corruption always grows.
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9:03 AM, 09 03 2008 | Permalink
While your point is certainly valid at this moment, I think you fail to realize that the congress will be up for voting in 2010, less than half way through the President's tenure. So if Obama wins, we'll have a democratic President and a democratic congress, but the congress (judging by today's approval ratings, which are the fault of BOTH republicans and democrats and the fact that they are gridlocked)will most likely become republican in 2010. So if you vote McCain and he wins, most likely what you are talking about in your article will in fact come true in that we will have a republican president and a republican congress.
Also, it'd be interesting to research whether the checks and balances even work nowadays. Unfortunately I work very long hours and I do not have any time to look up stats online. In this day and age we seem more divided then ever. The President has exercised massive amounts of executive privilege which destroy the traditionally open nature of our government, and congress is constantly filibustered with every plan that is brought to the podium. How is anything supposed to get done when congress is almost at a 50-50 split on every subject. We have a democratic congress and republican president right now and clearly the only thing getting done in D.C. is constant bickering and arguing back and forth.
I'm not so sure there are any solutions out there, maybe someone has a different outlook on the problem.
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10:37 AM, 09 03 2008 | Permalink
The real problem is that almost half of voters don't care.
Too many voters refuse to see that they are being controlled and manipulated by a few for their own self-gain and to make their cu$hy, coveted incumbencies more secure.
Too many irresponsible voters is why government is corrupt, irresponsible, unaccountable, and FOR-SALE.
What do voters expect, when the voters repeatedly reward bad politicians with perpetual re-election?
Too many voters fail to see that they themselves (the voters) are the biggest problem, because it is the voters are who repeatedly reward too many bad politicians with perpetual re-election.
SIMPLE, while helpful, does not always equate to EASY.
The simple solution is the one simple thing voters were supposed to be doing all along, always:
- Stop repeate offenders.
- Stop repeatedly rewarding corrupt, irresponsible, incompetent politicians with perpetual re-election.
- Vote smarter.
- If in doubt, vote 'em out!
- Or don't, and get your education the hard and painful way . . . either way, the voters are going to get their education one way or another.
I commend and congratulate you for taking the time to look at your Congress person's voting record. You are right. It raises many questions . . .Buck McKeon (R, CA-25):
Now compare it with McCain's and Obama's voting records and positions.
Perhaps the follwing grid can help make an objective decision?
Have you seen the commercial on Television, where one guy says he's going to vote for a candidate because "He's loves cats".
How many voters do that?
Whoever becomes the next president, and even if some voters don't want to give their vote to any of the presidential candidates, voters shouldn't sit out the election completely. Don't forget about Congress. Otherwise, bad politicians are rewarded with perpetual re-election, it lets the bad politicians capitalize on apathy, complacency, and resignation to futility, sabotages the next president, and will most likely perpetuate these abuses and the deteriorating consequences.
At any rate, the voters have the government that the voters elect (and re-elect, and re-elect, and re-elect , . . . , at least until that finally becomes too painful).
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Zachary Petit said at :
3:26 PM, 09 06 2008 | Permalink
LA Hanna:
"I am a new voter having turned 18 this year. I choose to be a Republican because America needs Republicans. Without Republicans, America would be a one party government which is a mere hop skip and jump from being an authoritarian government authored by Democrats. What does a new Republican voter in this year make of this election? It's a real eye opener for me."
Your logic remains the same replacing the word "Republican" with "Green Party Member" or "Communist" or "Neo Nazi", so why not choose any one of those? It seems foolish to join a party without any regard to what their platform is or what their leaders stand for.
"The polls indicate most Americans believe John McCain is the best person for president to accomplish that task. Good enough for me."
If you had looked at the polls following 9/11, you would have seen George W. Bush being one of the most popular and "best" Presidents of all time. Do you honestly think that George W. Bush's decisions following 9/11 were the best choices available? Don't you think it could have been handled better? Would you have agreed with the separatists' views before the civil rights movement, simply because it was the popular choice?
Its great to see someone my age active in politics. Its even better to see someone my age use reasoning when making political choices. So apply the critical thinking you must have used to write this post to selecting a political party based off of your values, and not the values of everyone around you!
Zachary Petit | September 6, 2008 3:26 PM
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LA Hanna replied to Zachary Petit at: :
1:18 PM, 09 07 2008 | Permalink
Zachary, thank you for the reply to my article.
Too many of the Republican Party elected officials deserted the Party's principles in governing. Not even most Republicans would deny that. But, that leaves the choice open for Republican voters to abandon their Party as you suggest, or work to elect Republicans who will adhere to the Party's principles.
Sen. John McCain's acceptance speech addressed this and will not be like Pres. Bush who in so many ways abandoned our Party's conservative principles. We young Republicans will work to remake our Party into what it was always supposed to be, a Party of the people who put nation, faith in hard work, family, and fiscal discipline at the forefront of our party platform and policy making.
One day I will have a child. If that child disappoints their potential, I will not abandon my child. I will work harder to help my child fulfill their potential. I believe in the same approach regarding my Party choice, unless it becomes obvious, that there are no Republicans seeking office who share these basic values. Then, of course, leaving the Party may be warranted as you suggest.
But, right now, Sen. McCain is the Republican who can and will restore Republican principles to his office and policies. And he needs Republicans like me to help make that happen. Now, is not the time for Republicans to abandon hope and principle and Party. Now is the time for Republicans to double their effort at rescuing our party and America's future through conservation of our Constitution's principles, our financial resources, and values which have always made America strong and able to overcome the challenges it faces.
The record of Pres. Bush and some of the Republican leadership in the Congress are a challenge to overcome, and we Republicans are determined to meet that challenge with Sen. McCain's leadership, experience, and wisdom. We all want what's best for our country. We simply disagree on how we achieve that. Sen. McCain acknowledged the need for working with Democrats and Independents to get the job done. I see no reason to believe he will not honor that commitment. Therefore, I will continue to support him and his effort to rebuild my party into what it was always supposed to be.
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5:43 PM, 09 06 2008 | Permalink
What America needs (and A.S.A.P.) are responsible voters (regardless of party).
Government is too corrupt, and too many voters now only allowed it, but repeatedly reward bad politicians for all of it with 85%-to-90% re-election rates.
Yes, one-party control leads to corruption, but whose fault is that?
Whose fault is it that the two-party duopoly simply takes turns being corrupt and irresponsible?
But, perhaps enough voters will be less apathetic, complacent, and blindly partisan when enough of the voters are deep in debt , jobless , homeless , and hungry ? Perhaps the voters aren't feeling enough pain yet from illegal immigration and these other abuses?
At any rate, the voters have the government that the voters elect (and re-elect, and re-elect, and re-elect , . . . , at least until that finally becomes too painful.
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LA Hanna replied to d.a.n at: :
1:45 PM, 09 07 2008 | Permalink
Dan, there is a lot of good logic to what you say.
Your approach appears to me to be a last resort when all other hopes have been abandoned and attempts have failed. Sen. McCain has pointed the way for Republicans to elect a different kind of Republican from our Party, people who will work on the solutions that our country needs with Democrats and Independents who have the same vision of a stronger, more responsible, and sound America going forward.
If George W. Bush were running for election again this year, I truly believe most Republicans would not want to vote for him. We place a high investment in loyalty and faith in our leaders, and it is a shame we did not see as a Party how Pres. Bush was leading our Party and country down the wrong path until after he was reelected.
I am not voting for my Republican Congressman Buck McKeon this year. I am not voting for his Democratic challenger, Willoughby either. McKeon has his wife on his political payroll, and that kind of stuff is what the old Republicans and Democrats thought was just fine. I won't vote for McKeon either because of his anti-abortion position. As a young female, I would never contemplate choosing an abortion. But, of course, I also realize that if I were raped, I might very well want the option open to me. I am opposed to abortion generally, but, I also think that the states, not the federal government, should decide that issue for themselves. That would make abortion in legal in some states, and illegal in others. And that is the best I think that can ever be accomplished on this issue.
I won't vote for Democrats who want abortion available as a convenient form of birth control, and I won't vote for male Republicans who would deny abortion under all circumstances to all women. I am now reading that Gov. Palin may have held that view. But, I am not voting for Gov. Palin, I am voting for Sen. John McCain, and he intends to find common ground with Democrats on this and all other issues that our country faces.
I won't be voting for incumbent Representative. See, we can reach agreement even when our reasons may not be the same.
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Zachary Petit replied to LA Hanna at: :
2:01 PM, 09 07 2008 | Permalink
@LA Hanna:
My goal was not to suggest that you leave your party. I simply said that you generally should give some thought about the values a party has before joining that party. I would consider joining a group based off of a) population or b) popularity incorrect as voter that does not seek to become politically active in an office-holding sense.
Now its obvious that the Republican party has values (whether or not the current leadership supports them), and you agree with those values. Fine. But your post made it appear as though you selected the Republican party simply because it needed to be defended against the Democrats. The last time I checked, the country was more Republican than Democrat, but I could be wrong. Anyone want to look that up for me?
I love your paragraph talking about supporting your child regardless of their behavior. America needs more individuals with values similar to yours, in my opinion. However, the Democrats hold a similar view of holding adults responsible to their children. Obama touched on this during his nomination speech, which I felt to be a refreshing change from the norm of talking about larger educational programs (which he did mention) and placing most of the blame on the failing schools and current government programs. There is no doubt that many American families are dysfunctional (or non-existent), and it is they who should shoulder the blame of the increase in crime in cities and decrease in academic success of our new generation.
But I'm going off topic. You say that John McCain will bring the party back to its original principles. I have to disagree. Its been touted in the news lately that McCain has voted with George W. Bush, with the "party line", %90 of the time. This means that he has supported the straying away from these principles for the passed eight years, and has not fought to restore them. Why would I accept that he has changed his mind now? Why would I accept that now is the time that he will become the maverick reformer that the Republican party touts so heavily (but offers so little evidence of... I'd like to see his record on voting for reform bills some time).
John McCain has offered nothing in talk of actual policy or planning that would make me consider voting for him. Barack Obama has a lengthy "Blueprint" on his website that lays out all of his plans after he is elected president. Even if I disagreed with some of his plans, he would have to make me very upset with them to consider voting for anyone who does not show me what they will do in the office instead.
Zachary Petit replied to LA Hanna | September 7, 2008 2:01 PM
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3:27 PM, 09 07 2008 | Permalink
The last resort will be much worse than my recommended approach, such civil unrest and rampant crime, civil war, and/or revolution, etc.
What I'm recommending is what the voters will eventually do sooner or later anyway, as did most unhappy voters in year 1933 (who voted out 206 members of Congress).
However, sooner would be better, because the later it is, the more risky and dangerous it will get.
Already, the possibility of another Great Depression is not at all far fetched.
You know something terribly is wrong when no one can answer one simple question:
Regarding this approach:
Others have tried to poke holes in the logic of simply not repeatedly rewarding bad politicians with re-election, and they have all failed.
Why?
Because the logic is sound.
Voters were never supposed to repeatedly reward bad politicians with perpetual re-election (regardless of the many reasons).
This approach is NOT recommending that we should not re-elect good politicians.
We should always elect good politicians.
The issue is that there very few incumbent politicians (if any) that are responsible and accountable enough to deserve re-election.
I've been looking at voting records for years, and I can not list even 5% of the incumbents in Congress that deserve re-election, much less at least half (i.e. 268 = 535 / 2) in Congress that deserve re-election.
If that's not true, perhaps you or anyone else here can answer on simple question:
- QUESTION # 2: Who can name 50, 100, 200, or even 268 (half of 535) in Congress that are responsible and accountable?
HHMMMmmmmmmm . . . sorry, but that is not a very convincing argument in defense of partisan loyalties. There is also such a thing as misplaced loyalties. When you have a child, repeatedly reward it for bad behavior and see what happens. That child will become so spoiled rotten, that child will be unfit to live with. Likewise with Congress today. Voters must become like responsible parents and discipline their elected officials; NOT repeatedly reward bad behavior with perpetual re-election. How will incumbent politicians ever become more responsible and accountable when the voters repeatedly reward the incumbent politicians with perpetual re-election? Voters have a choice. Vote more responsible now, or wait until the absence of enough responsible voting becomes too painful (and there's a lot of pain already in the pipeline).Perhaps the voters should start holding Congress responsible as a whole, in order to create some peer-pressure in Congress, instead of trying to figure out who (if anyone) is responsible and accountable?
Unless someone can name at least 268 (half of 535) in Congress that are responsible and accountable, what does it mean about Congress as a whole, and the voters that repeatedly reward those same incumbent politicians with perpetual re-election ?
Any way, what would be more convincing in defense of any party or politician would be a list of their accomplishments, voting records, and progress on the nation's many pressing problems.
One would certainly think $2.7 Trillion per year and tax revenues could produce considerably more progress and solve more problems. Instead, our severely bloated, corrupt, incompetent government has exceled at creating more problems. Iraq and the hundreds of blunders that followed is a very good example of that.
Sorry, but McCain is not credible, and his voting record and experience is nothing to brag about (especially his voting record on illegal immigration, in which McCain despicably chooses to pit American citizens and illegal aliens against each other for profits , votes , and (supposedly) misplaced compassion} Bush (43) is a disgrace. Bush (43) not only led us down the wrong path, but he misled Americans to do it. Despite that, McCain still asserts that we were correct to invade Iraq, despite CIA information being false:- John McCain said CIA assessments on Iraqi WMDs were all wrong. (Mar 2005)
- John McCain said the Iraqi war was necessary after years of failed diplomacy. (Aug 2004)
- John McCain said we may be in Iraq for 100 years (Feb 2008)
- John McCain said the Iraqi war was necessary, achievable and noble. (Aug 2004)
- John McCain said the cause of the Iraqi war was just. (Apr 2004) {never mind one little detail . . . Uhhmmm, like no WMD ?}
- John McCain said it is important to win (in Iraq), important for U.S. to be superpower. {win what? redemption, or peace? }
That's good. There are numerous things in McKeon's voting record that raise questions. You may be right about that. That's a circular problem because the woman has rights too. Also, making a law won't stop it. If people really want to help, they should determine ways to prevent unwanted pregnancies and help create a society where women don't see abortion as the best choice.While these are not good days for Republicans, a lot of Republican voters have left that party, and it may take years for voters to get over it, what too few voters understand is that the incumbent politicians in the OTHER parties are also so corrupt, incompetent, and irresponsible, it really makes little difference which party any of the incumbent politicians belong to.
The presidential election is a little different.
There is no incumbent, and our choices aren't very good:
Thus, we're probably in big trouble, regardless of who the next president is.
Regardless of who the next president is (and I don't think it will be McCain), voters shouldn't forget about Congress.
Whoever the next president is, voters should try not to sabotage their choice for president with another corrupt, irrepsonsible, and incompetent Congress.
The numbers of voters that refuse to vote for incumbent politicians is growing, but their numbers are still too small to send a strong message to incumbent politicians.
But, perhaps enough voters will stop repeatedly rewarding bad politicians with perpetual re-election when the voters have brought enough pain and suffering onto themselves, like the unhappy voters in year 1933 who ousted a whopping 206 members of Congress. Of course, those unhappy voters in year 1933 waited too long (over 3 years into the Great Depression), and there was many years of unavoidable pain and misery already in the pipeline. So, perhaps enough voters will do the same when enough voters are finally deep in debt , jobless , homeless , and hungry ?
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3:47 PM, 09 07 2008 | Permalink
John McCain also admits economics is not his strong suit. He is almost totally computer illiterate, and he must be terrible in math too, since he appears to be totally unaware that the current tax system is regressive, and he wants to make it MORE regressive.
On top of that, John McCain blatantly twists the truth and has some people convinced their taxes are going to be increased, when only people with incomes over $250,000 would see an increase in taxes. Those lies are dubunked in this article from the Tax Policy Center, which did a comparison of Obama's and McCain's tax plans: