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Bailout Whom?

The economy is nosediving and we need to do something, not to restore the credit markets (what does that mean?) nor to increase confidence (which is elusive), but to help the citizens of the U.S. who are and will be in financial trouble. We need a bailout alright but not a bailout of fat cats who will get along nicely regardelss of what we do, but a bailout of workers and homeowners.

Secretary of the Treasury Henry Paulson, who comes from Wall Street, naturally thinks in terms of the economic system, that is, he knows the credit system as it flows from financial institutions, mortgage brokers, banks and others financial operators to the final consumer. He thinks the system broke down and that an infusion of $700 billion would supply the credit to correct it.

Not being an economist I have no idea whether the system itself broke down. All I know is that financial institutions made bad loans and they encouraged consumers to make bad mistakes. I don't think that dumping more money into financial institutions so that they can make more loans will fix things. Maybe it may put a few of them on firmer footing. But what will happen to consumers that lose their homes and their jobs?

There's been a lot of discussion as to whether we are in recession or not. The trouble here, again, is that we are thinking in terms of the system. When you lose your home or your job what do you care what the economy is called? As far as you are concerned we are in the midst of a depression. Those who still have jobs may call it a recession, but the unemployed think they are in a depression.

Having grown up during the Great Depression I can tell you how terrible things may get. Sure, many rich people killed themselves. But the bulk of the burden was carried by ordinary workers who were thrown out of jobs and could not find another.

Don't kid yourself. Unemployment will increase much further whether we shore up the credit system or not.

Instead of worrying about credit we should worry about workers. Instead of boosting the credit supply, we need to supply jobs. Instead of depending on the availability of loans to enhance business so that jobs may trickle down, we should provide jobs directly to workers and allow prosperty to trickle up.

How do we do this? Pretty simple. Sink the $700 billion not in the credit markets, but in the development of jobs. Also small businesses who were hurt as much as workers. We may help workers by improving our infrastructure which is in need of rebuilding. We may help small businesses by encouraging the development of alternative sources of energy, something we must do to prevent the addition of climate catastrophe to our woes.

Let's not bailout the fatcats. Let's bail out the small businessman and the worker.

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A credit market freeze, Paul, which is now occurring, will hurt workers and homeowners the most, as unemployment will rise dramatically if money cannot flow through out our economy. This is an Economic Stabilization Bill which passed the Senate and it is NOT a misnomer. It will help stabilize the current downward spiral of credit freeze.

It buys America and her economy some time. I don't think you realize that the foreign markets are absolutely hanging on to whether we pass this or not. If it doesn't pass, their recessions will deepen and that means LOST JOBS for Americans who work in the industries which export products and services, one of the few sectors of our economy still rather healthy. This bill fails, that sector weakens. And America's economy cannot afford to have another economic fundamental erode from under it.

Paul, I agree 100%.

A series of bail-outs will probably crash the U.S. Dollar, which has already plummeted a long way for several years, which will make a bad situation worse.

Sure, credit is getting scarce.
That's unfortunate, but more debt is not the solution.
Americans need to learn to get along with less borrowing.

The belief that the U.S. Dollar can't crash is why it will probably happen.
It will probably happen because the government is addicted to debt, and it can't stop growing the massive debt, borrowing, money-printing, spending, pork-barrel and waste.

Before the U.S. Dollar crashes, it will then be time (if not already) to buy gold, land, foreign currencies, and anything that will retain some value, since the U.S. Dollar will become completely worthless due to rampant bail-outs, borrowing, money-printing, spending, pork-barrel, and waste. It will be like what happened in Argentina, in which within a few months, you could only buy a newspaper for the number of pesos that previously would have bought a villa (i.e. a house).

That's not empty doom-and-gloom.
That's a mathematical certainty.
Keep up these bail-outs, borrowing, growing the debt, spending, money-printing, pork-barrel, and waste, and the U.S. Dollar will crash.

For anyone who doesn't believe it, then simply answer this one simple question:

  • Where will the money come from to pay only the interest on the $10.03 Trillion National and the $53 Trillion-to-$66 Trillion nation-wide-debt, much less the money to reduce the principal, when that money does not yet exist? Especially when 80% of the U.S. Population owns ONLY 16%-to-17% of all wealth?

Is it mere fear-mongering and dooms-dayish to ask that question?

  • Total nation-wide debt of $53.87 Trillion has never been larger, both in size and as a percentage of the $13.86 Trillion GDP:
    • Private domestic financial sector debt=$15.8 Trillion;
    • Household debt= $13.88 Trillion;
    • Business debt=$10.16 Trillion;
    • Federal government National Debt = $10.03 Trillion
    • State and local government debt = $2.2 Trillion;
    • Other private sector foreign debt = $1.8 Trillion;
    • _______________________________________________________
    • Total nation-wide debt = $53.87 Trillion (and that does not even include the $12.8 Trillion borrowed and spent from Social Security, leaving it pay-as-you-go, with a 77 million baby boomer bubble approaching);
    • If the $12.8 Trillion borrowed and spent from Social Security is included:
    • Total nation-wide debt = $66.67 Trillion = $53.87 Trillion + $12.8 Trillion = 4.81 times the nation's $13.86 Trillion GDP (year 2007) !
    • Total federal debt is = $22.83 Trillion = $10.03 Trillion + $12.8 Trillion = 1.65 times the nation's $13.86 Trillion GDP (year 2007) !

The interest alone on the nation-wide debt of $53.87 Trillion to $66.67 Trillion (at only 4.0% interest) is:

  • $5.82 Billion to $7.24 Billion per day!

  • That is $19.08 -to- $23.74 per day for every man, woman, and child (for only the interest alone).

  • For an average household size of 2.61 persons, that is $49.80 -to- $61.96 per household, per day for interest alone!

  • That is $1513.88 -to- $1883.58 per household per month for interest alone!

  • That is $17,812.00 -to- $22,615.4 per household per year for interest alone!

Just think of what hyperinflation could mean, when oil is mostly traded using U.S. Dollars today?
If we crash the U.S. Currency with hyperinflation, the current pain and misery can be magnified many times over.
Why create more money out of thin air when we can NOT even pay the interest alone on the nation-wide debt?

The path we are on is not sustainable.
That's a fact.
So why grow the problem bigger with more debt, borrowing, money-printing, spending, pork-barrel, and waste?

Here are just a few of many reasons why this bail-out BILL H.R. 1424 is bad for America:


  • (01) NO CHECKS and BALANCES: There are insufficient checks-and-balances. This bail-out would mask imbalances in credit markets and in the U.S. economic public policy. The plan props up irresponsible, crooked, and reckless, failed banks by buying "troubled assets" instead of focusing on real solutions and principles. It would fail to go after government-sponsored culprits such as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and perpetuate unsustainable policies that caused the problem in the first place.

  • (02) FOX IN THE HEN HOUSE: It is a blatant, greedy power grab. The bail-out raises Constitutional concerns by dramatically expanding the power of the current and future Treasury Secretaries, giving the government agency power to directly purchase assets from for-profit financial and non-financial firms. A huge problem in this country is too many people trying to make money by playing with money, instead of creating real value. It's not working. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, the architect of this bail-out plan, was formerly the head of Goldman Sachs, one of the firms responsible for the mess and a direct beneficiary of the bailout. Also, the people managing the bailout will be Wall Street firms and will likely receive billions of tax dollars in fees. Cha Ching!

  • (03) THE DEBT IS ALREADY TOO BIG: The $700 billion bailout figure is as much money as the combined annual budgets of the Departments of Defense, Education and Health and Human Services. It amounts to $2,295 for every man, woman, and child in America. For the average household of 2.61 persons, that's $8793 per household. Of course, the people that got us into this problem and didn't see it coming are also the ones telling you it won't cost you much, and you may even make a profit. And I've got some beach-front property for sale in Arizona. Yeah, right. Also, if Congress is going to borrow all of that $700 Billion, how will that free up credit markets? And if the Federal Reserve is going to print most (or all) of that money, how will we pay the interest on the debt when we can't even pay the current level of interest on the National Debt? That is, the government has been borrowing and printing new money to merely pay the interest on the National Debt for years. The National Debt and nation-wide debt is already too large.

  • (04) IT WILL BAILOUT FOREIGNERS: The plan includes taxpayer purchases of distressed assets from foreign banks. Americans are losing their homes by the millions, and the federal government is going to take your tax dollars and purchse distressed assets from foreign banks. Cha Ching! If voters fall for this, then the voters really do deserve the government that they elect, and re-elect, and re-elect, and re-elect.

  • (05) IT PUNISHES RESPONSIBLE AMERICANS: The plan punishes responsible Americans and banks by keeping reckless, insolvent investment banks in business. There are still many good banks and responsible Americans who have little to no debt, and this bail-out is primarily a bailout of poorly run financial institutions. Badly-run competitors should fail. Funny how the free-market zealots are suddenly looking for a bail-out. What a bunch of hypocrits.
  • (06) BY WALL STREET, FOR WALL STREET: The idea that taxpayers will make money on the bailout is not credible. There are other buyers for the troubled assets. Merrill Lynch sold its entire portfolio of mortgage backed securities in July. If a profit is truly possible, then allow private speculators to buy these troubled assets.

  • (08) $700 Billion isn't enough to accomplish the goal. Look at this list of 186 banks (bankimplode.com/list/troubledbanks.htm) with negative or small net assets. Now consider the 6 million foreclosures since 2005. Foreclosures are not going to instantly stop now. There will most likely be millions of more foreclosures. If there are 6 million more foreclosures, 6 Million x $159,000 median home price = $954 Billion , which is already 254 Billion more than the $700 Billion , and there are already 18.6 Million vacant housing units on the market now.

  • (09) WHERE WILL THE MONEY COME FROM?: Where will the money come from to merely continue to pay the interest on the current National Debt and the nation-wide debt, much less the money to reduce the principal debt and keep the principal from growing ever larger, when that money does not exist yet, and 80% of all Americans owns only 16%-to-17% of all wealth in the U.S.?

  • (10) MORALLY OFFENSIVE: The bail-out violates basic, long-held, and widely accepted principles of American capitalism and honest governance by creating a system of "private profits and socialized losses", which transfers money from taxpayers directly to the banks. Free market capitalism only functions if individuals and corporations are held accountable and are allowed to both succeed and profit, and also to sustain losses and even fail. Also, the people managing the bailout will be Wall Street firms and will likely receive billions of tax dollars in fees. Cha Ching! Most polls show most Americans are against a bail-out, or whatever imaginative name someone wants to give to this plan to funnel billions to the people that created the problem. Everyone and their dog will be lining up for a bail-out, including auto-makers and airlines.

  • (11) TOO RISKY: Growing the National Debt and nation-wide debt any bigger is risky, because even if the federal government was able to borrow all of the money (instead of printing new money), it would raise the National Debt and the interest on the National Debt, which the federal government is already unable to pay ($429 Billion in year 2007, which the federal government borrowed and printed out of thin air to pay). Growing the debt and the money-supply risks crashing the U.S. Dollar, which has already been falling significantly for over 5 years, and consistently every consecutive year since year 1956 (One-Simple-Idea.com/InflationRates1780-2007.jpg).

And if this bail-out BILL H.R. 1424 passes, it will get more painful a few months from now, because the debt problem will simply be bigger than it is now.
And if another bail-out BILL passes, the debt problem will simply be bigger than it was, and so on, and so on, and so on.
Sort of like a rate in a cage with a cocaine dispenser.
It can't stop because it is addicted like Americans are addicted to credit, borrowing, money-printing, spending, pork-barrel, and waste.

At any rate, the voters have the government that they elect, and re-elect, and re-elect, and re-elect, until that finally becomes too painful.