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Frightened Obamaphobes

Obama in Germany - Courtesy Reuters.gifBy this time everybody knows that Barack Obama delivered an outstanding speech in Germany. It was greeted by a raving audience of over 200,000 people streching for a mile. Obviously he was a hit. Republicans are so scared of the affect of this grand reception on the American public, they are denigrating everything about the speech.

They say that he is arrogant, he should have stayed home, though he was a hit in Germany he will not be in the U.S., his speech is empty rhetoric.... Here I want to point out 2 Republican criticisms that demonstrate the philosophical difference between Republicans and Democrats.

The first is by James Poulos:

In addition to [citizen of the world] being meaningless -- the world is not a polity, so citizenship in it is impossible -- this is exactly the sort of redundantly empty rhetoric that does nothing to energize his base, nothing to allay the concerns of Middle America about his meta-attitude, and supplies the frantic and the furious on the right with a fresh tranch of attacks. Why did he do it? Bad advice? His own advice? Why couldn't he just say "a big fan of the world," or "a product of the world," something that at least had the merit of being accurate? Anyone?

The words that I, as a Democrat, love, "citizen of the world," Republicans hate. Poulos thinks this phrase is meaningless. There is no way to get all the world working in unison for a common good. Even in the U.S. Most Republicans do not think there is such a thing as the common good even with relation to the U.S. itself. Democrats believe in the common good and work to achieve it. Obama in all his speeches talks of the common good. In his Germany speech he extended the idea to the whole world.

The other criticism is by Victor Davis Hanson:

Unlike Obama, I would not speak to anyone as "a fellow citizen of the world," but only as an ordinary American who wishes to do his best for the world, but with a much-appreciated American identity, and rather less with a commonality indistinguishable from those poor souls trapped in the Sudan, North Korea, Cuba, or Iran. Take away all particular national identity and we are empty shells mouthing mere platitudes, who believe in little and commit to even less. In this regard, postmodern, post-national Europe is not quite the ideal, but a warning of how good intentions can run amuck. Ask the dead of Srebrenica, or the ostracized Danish cartoonists, or the archbishop of Canterbury with his supposed concern for transcendent universal human rights.

Never mind the world at large. Take care of the U.S. In a different context Republicans call this patriotism. Democrats don't see how wanting to help poor nations means we have less patriotism than Republicans.

We must realize, as Obama said in his speech, that there are world problems that affect us all and they can't be solved if we don't work together. Think of the problem of global warming. Making our own country as clean as a whistle will not solve the problem. We must get all nations to work together.

Maybe this is one reason that some Republicans deny that there is such a thing as global warming. They know that fixing it requires more than relying on market forces. We must cooperate with all nations if we are to make the world safe for civilization.

Obamaphobes are scared of Obama because he makes the case for the common good so eloquently. This is the reason I and other Democrats (and independents and even some Republicans) love him.

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"Ich bin ein Berliner", said John F. Kennedy before the German people, and it was a line that shot around the world like a racing bullet, pregnant with good will and good intentions toward the fellow people's of the world by the American's whom JFK represented.

Such a president with that good will and intentions is precisely what America's reputation needs in order to garner the cooperation and assistance it is absolutely going to need to succeed as a nation of the world over the coming decades.

McCain goes overseas many, many times, and comes back with threats toward people's of the world, and little media coverage of so pedestrian an American foreign policy position. Obama goes over once as presidential candidate and gets acclaimed in media around the globe.

Pretty much says it all about which candidate has the personna and gravitas to act as good will ambassador for America, with a powerful stick waiting in the wings if necessary. For the world, McCain does read as more of the same Bush. Obama reads a wind of fresh and healthy air for tackling and solving problems in the world instead of creating them.

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Republicans seem to wither and cringe at the thought of negotiation or compromise. They would rather continue with their hard line approach than lose face by admitting that their world affair tactics have been mostly flawed. I haven't yet decided if this is a result of choice or if they simply do not have the capacity for such communication. I know it is a concept foreign to neo-cons, but surely not all republicans can be considered neo-cons. Never the less their refusal to see our problems as the problems of the world and vice versa is a flawed nuance which limits their capacity to grow with a new world society. Like it or not at some point they will have to drop the hard nosed, play yard bully tactics and deal with the rest of the world. We will not be successful in attempts to rule the world. Common sense dictates that we must learn to live with the world rather than manipulate it.

Times and ways are changing rapidly in the face of energy needs and the ability to meet those needs. It will take a world effort to address the issues of energy, hunger, health and environment. Nafta and the G8 have served to bring us and the rest of the world into a global society. This can not be denied. The result is that we must show as much responsibility to the needs of others as they must to us. Republicans seem to struggle with this concept. They want the profits that go along with the world economy, yet they would rather avoid the resultant problems. That is unless they can manage a profit while doing so. I think maybe they can be considered ethically challenged.

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Like we should give two bits for what the Germans think. Pandering to socialists who are reeling under their own pathetic multiculturalism policies, especially when it comes to foreign policy, is ridiculous. Beware of anyone who keeps harping about "the common good" because it is statism in disguise.

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Rocky Marks said at :
1:55 PM, 07 26 2008 | Permalink

Gee, Huntwork, sour grapes?

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David M: Like we should give two bits for what the Germans think.

Spoken like a true neo-con. A classic example of old attitudes not in keeping with current day world necessity. We are no longer the only beacon in the ocean. The days of isolating ourselves from the rest of the world are over. It is a situation we played part in creating. Now we must evolve with it.

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Yes, whatever would we do without the Germans cheerleading our polices? The days of isolationism are over? What isolationism? Good grief, we've had far more entangling alliance and broad coalitions for the last several wars than we ever had before. The old Cold War alliances are being altered as we fashion new alliances for a new century. It is up to the Germans as to whether they want to step up and defend themselves and the free world from Islamic fundamentalism, rogue regimes and nuclear proliferation. If not, get out of the way. Pandering to them should have no place in the past, present or future.

I for one do not overly wring my hands and fret over what the French or Germans may think of the United States. I welcome there frienship and support, but it is up to them to decide to join with us or not.

You might enjoy reading my '03 article titled New Alliances for a New Century:

http://www.americandaily.com/article/2318

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In the London Times, Gerard Baker writes a satirical report of Obama’s European tour, mocking the fauning Obama press coverage.

And it came to pass, in the eighth year of the reign of the evil Bush the Younger (The Ignorant), when the whole land from the Arabian desert to the shores of the Great Lakes had been laid barren, that a Child appeared in the wilderness.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/gerard_baker/article4392846.ece

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That's funny, David H. You are aware, aren't you, that Jesus was mocked and made light of too, in his day, as a bible thumping hack.

Gandhi was mocked as the Fakir in a loin cloth.

What are opponents to do with those who would bring about better circumstances when doing so might diminish their own, but, to mock and ridicule.

One can, and should, critique Obama on the strengths and weaknesses of his policy platform issues. Same for McCain. But, to mock or ridicule their strengths is the act of desperate minorities running out of strategy to fight a growing popular figure. I think Rocky had the right words, sounds like "sour grapes".

There is nothing messianic in Obama. He is a politician. And as a politician seeking support from a vast number of disparate interest groups, his positions are going to offend some regardless of what those positions are. Same is true of McCain. In the end, the candidate that can inspire support on the most issues from the most people, will win the popular vote.

McCain's repetitive stump speeches are anchored in Bush's fiscal and tax policies and miltarism, repeated ad nauseum, Mon thru Fri (he doesn't work on weekends) on the campaign trail replete with inaccuracies and misunderstandings like Iraq bordering Pakistan.

Obama is not without his own gaffes, but, his range of issues is very much broader, and unlike McCain who is tethered to his conservative base in order to win, Obama is free to seek support across the board from independents, Democrats, Republicans, and third party folks, and can win even by alienating some on the extreme left.

McCain cannot win the popular vote without conservative wing of his party. This math is becoming self evident to many. And the fact that Obama can draw the crowds he does wherever he goes, and McCain's crowds are paltry at best (consisting of primarily wealthy folks and die hard Republicans whose registered voter numbers are less than Democrats or Independent voters), leaves Obama's critics with satire, mockery, and humor as the only strategy left them to combat his growing popularity.

No knew Obama's name 19 months ago. Today the world knows his name and is increasingly liking the man as the next president of the U.S. A president who appeals to the world, is going to have world support and that is good for Americans and America. McCain's popularity overseas is less than Bush's and that's really, really bad.

It is a mistake to underestimate the importance of a presidential candidate's regard overseas.

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David M

What isolationism?

The metaphorical isolationism that is bought about by the claim that we can ignore the ideologies of the rest of the world. As though our ideologies are the only ones that matter. As though the rest of the world must lie in wait, subservient to our ideologies. As though there is to be no ideological parity between us and everyone else. It is that ideological arrogance which your ilk espouses that grows cynicism and hatred of American ideals around the world. It is a selfish, self serving and shallow trait. An antiquated trait which does not work well in todays world.

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Just for the record, and for clarification for the non-Christians amongst us, Jesus was not "mocked and made light of too, in his day, as a bible thumping hack."

And does anyone really buy into the concept of "ideological parity" between America and the rest of the world? Good grief, I nope not.

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Don't know much Christian history, do you, David H? And his punishment on the cross was because he was a model Jew? And the money changers in the temple regarded him as What, David H?

As a Buddhist since 1967, I have considerably more knowledge of Christ than appears in your comment.

No ideological parity between the U.S. and Great Britain, Canada, Norway or dozens of others? Serious information deficit in your comment, David H.

Employ a bit more factual information for a change in your comments, instead of vacant opinions devoid of history, and I am confident the content of your comments will become far more credible as a result.

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Don't know much Christian history, do you, David H? And his punishment on the cross was because he was a model Jew?

No ideological parity between the U.S. and Great Britain, Canada, Norway or dozens of others? Serious information deficit in your comment, David H.